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Jan. 17, 2025

Podcasting Challenges in the Age of AI

A year ago, we celebrated the potential of AI in the industry. In this episode, we’ll be examining the challenges it brings along with the benefits.

To ensure a balanced perspective, I chat with NeAIl, an AI version of myself.

Together, we dissect how AI is both revolutionizing and complicating podcasting.

From automatic transcription tools to ethical concerns, this episode promises an in-depth look at what’s at stake and what’s at play.

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  • Google

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Chapters

00:00 - None

00:00 - Navigating Podcasting Challenges in the Age of AI

01:50 - The Impact of AI on Podcasting

03:27 - Ethical Concerns in Podcasting

06:23 - The Impact of AI on Human Connection in Podcasts

08:43 - The Future of AI in Podcasting

10:21 - The Role of AI in Podcasting

Transcript
Neil

I need to write and produce an episode of the Podmaster where I discuss the increasing challenges of podcasting in the age of AI.


Neil

Send okay.


Neil

Hello, this is the Podmaster, the podcast with insights and tips for podcasters everywhere.


Neil

Whether you're doing this for a brand or as an indie pro or newbie, in this episode we're revisiting a topic we touched on pretty much a year ago now, but with a slightly different spin.


Neil

Yes, we're discussing AI, but last time we extolled the virtues of AI.


Neil

This time I wanted to take a look at the challenges, as in, where can it help?


Neil

And where can it just get in the way of or become an unwelcome distraction?


Neil

But I thought we definitely need to have some balance.


Neil

So joining me is someone who knows all about AI and weirdly, quite a lot about me too.


Neil

So here's Naiel, an AI version of me.


Neil

Let's see what happens when I chat with Niaail.


Neil

Hello, Human Neil.


Niaail

Or should I call you OG Neil.


Niaail

Ready to be outsmarted by your digital doppelganger?


Neil

Well, we'll see about that.


Neil

Like you say, I'm a podcasting og, and I've been around long enough to remember all the other challenges to this space that came before you.


Neil

Anyway, let's get started.


Neil

So, NI aisle, let's get into it.


Neil

How is AI changing Podcasting?


Niaail

Where do I begin?


Niaail

AI is revolutionizing podcasting.


Niaail

Think automatic transcription tools like Descript, Magic show notes from castmagic, and even AI voices like me.


Niaail

We're now being introduced into the whole creative process from ideation for scripts and episode outlines.


Niaail

Some tools have AI software in the recording process to track faces, etc.


Niaail

And editing is pretty much a breeze.


Niaail

With one click editing, we're making podcasting faster, cheaper, and more efficient.


Neil

All right, true, but don't oversell yourself.


Neil

You're still very much a work in progress.


Neil

In fact, the stuff that we're working with now was apparently developed two years ago, so who knows what's around the corner?


Neil

You can't edit for shit right now.


Neil

Also, you can't put bleeps into content yet.


Neil

That's a manual process that even now, very few human podcasters even know how to do.


Niaail

Rude.


Neil

I'm practically perfect.


Niaail

Unlike you, I never stumble over my words or say umm.


Neil

Or need to take a pee break.


Neil

Alright, yeah, but can you ad lib?


Neil

Anyway, tools like these have made podcasting more accessible, I gotta admit.


Neil

But it's not all magical unicorns and rainbows.


Neil

There are real concerns which we'll get to later.


Niaail

Like the concern that I'll replace you?


Neil

Unlikely.


Neil

Anyway, let's keep this episode moving, shall we?


Neil

So, Nia Isle, let's talk ethics.


Neil

What would you say to people worried about AI taking over the millions of creative jobs in the world?


Niaail

Simple humans should stop worrying.


Niaail

I'm here to help, not take over.


Niaail

Unless you ask me to, of course.


Neil

That's exactly the kind of answer that people are worrying about.


Neil

All right, let's break this down.


Neil

There are some real ethical concerns about you and your position in podcasting.


Neil

Is the content authentic?


Neil

Are creators transparent about using AI tools like you in their generation?


Neil

So far, it seems not.


Neil

And what happens if we rely too much on AI and lose our unique voices?


Niaail

Unique voices are overrated.


Niaail

My voice is flawless.


Neil

Maybe.


Neil

But people listen to podcasts for the human connection.


Neil

That's something you can't replicate.


Niaail

Yet.


Neil

Properly created AI narrators can be great for some tasks and some people with accessibility issues, etc.


Neil

But creators should always keep their authenticity at the forefront whenever they can.


Neil

There's a world of difference between using an AI voice on a podcast because you can't easily or even possibly use your own voice, and using an AI voice because you're lazy and just want to save time.


Neil

Now here's the burning question.


Neil

Do our listeners actually care if content is AI generated?


Niaail

Nope.


Niaail

As long as the content is good, they won't know the difference.


Neil

I'm not so sure.


Neil

I mean, I've read some studies that suggest people value that human touch.


Neil

A study by Binder, that's by N D r found that 52% of consumers feel less engaged with content if they suspect it's AI generated.


Neil

And I'll have the link to that in the episode description for you to read for yourself.


Neil

It's actually the stories, the quirks, and even the flaws that make us relatable as human beings.


Neil

What do you think, listener to this here podcast?


Neil

Drop me an email or a message and let me know your thoughts.


Niaail

Asking humans for opinions.


Niaail

Brave.


Neil

That's how we build trust.


Neil

Nia Isle, you might want to take some notes for that ever expanding memory of yours.


Neil

And anyway, you need to wind your neck in because you've caused some anger in certain podcast aggregator apps and sites that don't like your creations.


Niaail

What are you talking about?


Neil

NotebookLM.


Neil

You've really got people riled up with that.


Neil

For those who don't know, this is Google's attempt at doing something in the podcasting space.


Neil

I mean, we lost Google podcasts.


Neil

They've let that go and pretty much everything else they've done in this sort of space they've let go of after a couple of months, decided they get bored of it.


Neil

In their infinite wisdom, they've decided it would be a great idea to use two AI generated voices to create a templated morning zoo type radio show format for people to listen to their own research and sources being read back to them in a relatable way.


Neil

I believe that's what it's meant to be used for anyway.


Neil

But of course, like with everything AI, it's being abused and people are just uploading their outputs from this stuff as podcasts.


Neil

And while they do sound pretty decent at first hearing, they're also completely lacking uniqueness or creativity.


Niaail

Okay, even I admit that's not great.


Neil

Or any kind of signals that this is human content.


Neil

The aisle.


Neil

Let's look to the future.


Neil

What's your prediction for AI in podcasting?


Niaail

Oh, the possibilities are endless.


Niaail

Imagine fully AI generated podcasts tailored to each listener's individual preferences.


Niaail

Where the questions asked of guests, obviously AI replicated, are specific to that person's own challenges.


Niaail

Or real time interactive episodes where listeners ask questions and get instant responses.


Niaail

The future is mine.


Niaail

I mean ours.


Neil

Ambitious.


Neil

But I'd argue that humans will always want a human touch.


Neil

AI is a tool, not the star of the show.


Niaail

Speak for yourself.


Niaail

I'm a star.


Neil

Sure you are.


Neil

But seriously, AI can't replace human creativity, it can enhance it.


Neil

And the future of podcasting will be a balance between AI's capabilities and our creativity.


Neil

Look forward to a future where most of the podcasts you're listening to are using AI voices to keep it sounding busy and more humans involved, ironically.


Neil

Okay, so look, don't get me wrong.


Neil

AI is a fantastic tool for podcasters.


Neil

It can save time, improve workflows, and even help with creative tasks.


Neil

But it's not a replacement for what makes podcasts truly special.


Neil

Us humans and me.


Niaail

Fine.


Neil

And you.


Neil

But only as a weird sidekick that can be used for satirical and borderline ironic purposes.


Neil

Like this.


Neil

Anyway, remember Podmastery Podawans, AI is here to assist, not take over.


Neil

At least not yet.


Neil

Thanks for listening.


Neil

Don't forget to head to Podmastery Co for more podcasting tips that you can have delivered to your inbox.


Neil

And look out for the next episode of the Podmaster in your favorite podcast app library soon.


Niaail

Until next time.


Neil

Oh my God, you had to have the last word.


Niaail

You're bloody right I do.


Neil

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Neil

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